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🗓️ 4 December 2023
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One of the most common reasons patients contact me is to find out why the therapy isn't working. They may be TEAM-CBT patients or patients of therapists using other approaches. Therapists also ask for consultations on the same problem--why am I stuck with this or that patient who isn't making progress?
In the Feeling Good App, my colleagues and I have been looking into this as well. Most app users report excellent and often rapid results, but some get stuck, in just the same way they might get stuck in treatment with a therapist. I have tried to organize my thinking on this topic, because if you can diagnose the cause of therapeutic failure, you can nearly always find a solution. Of course, the app is not a treatment device, but a wellness device, but the same principles apply.
So today, Rhonda, Matt and I discuss a couple reasons why therapists and patients alike sometimes get stuck. Matt described a patient who was misdiagnosed with a psychotic disorder who turned out to have sleep apnea. When the proposer diagnosis was made and treated, the patent suddenly recovered.
Rhonda described a patient who jumped from topic to topic and always brought up a new problem before completing work on the previous problem. This problem was solved when Rhonda explained the importance of sticking to one problem for several sessions, until the problem was resolved. The patient then began to make progress.
David described a depressed woman from Florida who was stuck in treatment, and not making progress, and then the therapist said "I just can't help you," This hurt and confused the patient who wrote to me. There were essentially two problems--the patients depression what brought her to therapy in the first place, and her unresolved hurt feelings when the therapist "gave up" on her. This problem reflected many failed relationships is the patient's life. This was resolved when the patient took the initiative to schedule a session to talk about the conflict more openly with excellent results.
In addition, the patient had heard that she "should" accept herself, but didn't know how to accept her constant self-critical troughs and intensely negative feelings. I suggested she make a list of the benefits of her negative thoughts and feelings, as well as the many positive things they showed about her and her core values as a human being.
She came up with an extremely impressive and long list! For example, her criticisms showed her high standards, her humility, her dedication to her work, her accountability, and much more. In addition, she'd achieved a great deal because of her relentless self-criticisms.
I asked her why in the world she'd want to accept herself, given all those positive characteristics
She decided NOT to accept herself, and was delighted with her decision. She said she felt profound relief!
An unusual, but awesome, path to acceptance! In other words, she ACCEPTED her "non-acceptance."
I hope you find today's podcast interesting and helpful. Of course, ultimately therapy is part science and part human relationship art. That's why Rhonda and I offer free weekly training groups for therapists who wish to develop their therapeutic skills. The groups are on zoom so therapists from around the world are welcome. Matt offers a consultation group (free to Stanford psychiatric residents) every other Tuesday for therapists who want help with difficult, challenging cases. To learn more, you'll find details and contact information at the end of the show notes.
Here’s are some of the most common reasons why therapy might fail or appear to be stuck / without progress. Some of them will be of interest primarily to clinicians, while others will be of interest to clinicians and patients alike. And many of these reasons will also apply to individuals using the Feeling Good App who are stuck in their attempts to change the way they think and feel.
But what does “stuck” actually mean? The definition, of course, is subjective. I believe that a substantial or complete elimination of depression and anxiety can typically be achieved in five sessions with a skilled TEAM therapist. I use two-hour sessions, and can usually see dramatic change in a single session, although follow-ups may be needed for Relapse Prevention Training or other problems the patients might want help with.
In my experience, the treatment of relationship problems and habits and addictions usually takes much longer than the treatment of anxiety or depression. The techniques to treat relationship problems and habits and addictions actually work just as fast as the techniques to treat depression and anxiety, but the resistance can be far more intense. For example, someone may be ambivalent about leaving a troubled relationship or giving up a favored habit for many months or years before making a decision to move in a new direction.
And, of course, the treatment of biological problems like schizophrenia and bipolar I disorder will nearly always require a long term therapeutic relationship, often requiring medications in addition to therapy.
The problems and errors I’ve listed below are mostly correctable. And although there are many traps that therapists and patients fall into, the vast majority of therapeutic failure the patient's hidden 'resistance' to change and the therapist's lack of skill addressing it. This is true in clinical practice and in psychotherapy outcome studies, as well.
On the one hand, a great many patients will feel ambivalent about change. For example, a patient with low self-esteem may not want to stop being self-critical and accept themselves, as-is, but to have a better version of themselves, first. Or they may want to overcome their fears without facing them. Or they might want a better relationship but would want the other person to do the changing.
Unfortunately, most therapists lack the skills to address resistance and, in fact, often make it worse by trying to motivate the patient to change, rather than understand their hesitation to change and discuss it with them. This is one area where TEAM training has a great deal to offer, including over 30 skills therapists can learn to address motivation and resistance.
The following list of 37 reasons why therapy fails follows the structure of T, E, A, M.
Errors at or before the initial evaluation
T = Testing
E = Empathy
A = Assessment of Resistance (also called Paradoxical Agenda Setting)
M = Methods--errors using the Daily Mood Log
Other therapist errors
Thanks for listening!
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques |
0:11.6 | to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the |
0:16.9 | Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new |
0:25.3 | team therapy. |
0:26.5 | He's the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States |
0:31.0 | and has been translated into over 30 languages. |
0:34.3 | His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery |
0:39.3 | possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an emeritus |
0:45.2 | adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine. |
0:52.1 | Hello. |
1:02.2 | Hi, David, and welcome to all of our listeners around the world and in the galaxy. |
1:06.6 | This is the Feeling Good podcast episode 373. |
1:11.5 | And we're doing another special recording with our beloved Matt May. |
1:12.1 | Hi, Matt. |
1:13.5 | Hey, Rhonda. |
1:14.1 | Hey, David. |
1:15.5 | So great to be here with you both. |
1:16.6 | Yeah. |
1:17.9 | Yeah. |
1:21.4 | Great to be here with you, Matt, and with you, Rhonda. |
1:22.6 | Super awesome. Like a highlight of my week. |
1:25.6 | Yeah. |
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