Hello everyone watching and listening. Today I'm speaking with Zach Lane, the co-founder

of Wonder, a socratic-based school system, K-12, in Wichita, Kansas. It's a follow-up

to a discussion I had with Jeff Sandefert, who's an innovator on the educational front for K-12.

And I wanted to talk to Zach today about the details of the educational process so that parents

and other people interested in childhood education could understand more thoroughly the mechanics

of the process. First of all, I've holes in my memory, you know, because I was ill for a while.

And I don't remember how we met. We met through Jeff, eh?

Actually, it was the opposite. Oh, okay.

It was, I was working in education and became a listener to a lot of what you were doing

and a follower in some ways. And then you had explained how you had so much interest

in revolutionizing education in various different ways. And so with that, I reached out

to you. I sent a cold email to you and we met Father's Day, maybe 2018 in Minneapolis.

And we sat down and we talked about education. And from there, it sort of spurred into this,

hey, we're very aligned. We have similar interests and we're wanting to see a similar change.

And from that, then introduced you to Jeff and we started kind of working with the Act

and MBA, the Act and Academy. And that's how it's, that's how it all started.

I see, I see. Now, so you're deeply involved in educational transformation.

Yeah. You have a school and you're going to be taking over the Act and program at some

point in the future. Well, we're taking a leadership role in the Act and program.

Yeah. Sure. Our school, we have an independent, uh, decentralized network is what I would say

of schools. And our school is called wonder. Okay. And who's we? Uh, so I would say,

well, my, my wife and I co-founded our school. And so that's when I say we, that's usually

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