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#370 – Edward Frenkel: Reality is a Paradox – Mathematics, Physics, Truth & Love

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

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🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 232 minutes

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Edward Frenkel is a mathematician at UC Berkeley working on the interface of mathematics and quantum physics. He is the author of Love and Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(05:54) - Mathematics in the Soviet Union
(16:05) - Nature of reality
(27:23) - Scientific discoveries
(40:45) - Observing reality
(56:57) - Complex numbers
(1:05:42) - Imagination
(1:13:33) - Pythagoreanism
(1:21:28) - AI and love
(1:34:07) - Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems
(1:54:32) - Beauty in mathematics
(1:59:02) - Eric Weinstein
(2:20:57) - Langlands Program
(2:27:36) - Edward Witten
(2:30:41) - String theory
(2:36:10) - Theory of everything
(2:45:03) - Mathematics in academia
(2:50:30) - How to think
(2:56:16) - Fermat's Last Theorem
(3:11:07) - Eric Weinstein and Harvard
(3:18:32) - Antisemitism
(3:38:45) - Mortality
(3:46:42) - Love

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Edward Franco, one of the greatest living mathematicians,

0:05.4

doing research on the interface of mathematics and quantum physics, with an emphasis on the Langlann's

0:11.2

program, which he describes as a grand unified theory of mathematics. He also is the author of

0:18.0

Love and Math, the heart of hidden reality. And now, a quick use that can mention of each sponsor.

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Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast. We got

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house of Macadamia's for healthy snacks, Shopify for e-commerce and ExpressVPN for security

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and privacy on the internet, to use wisely my friends. Also, if you want to work with our

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amazing team, we're always hiring. Go to lexfreedman.com slash hiring.

0:48.0

And now, onto the full ad reads, as always, no ads in the middle. I try to make these interesting,

0:53.0

but if you must skip them, please still check out our sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too.

1:00.0

This show is brought to you by House of Macadamia's, a company that ships delicious, high quality

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and healthy, macadamia nuts and macadamia nut-based snacks directly to your door. I don't know why

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shipping to your door matters, but in the copy they gave me, they put that there, and I should use

1:18.8

this opportunity to say that this sponsor and every sponsor, I have been extremely strict with

1:24.5

that they can't tell me anything about what I can say. So sometimes when I say something that comes

1:29.4

from their copy, it's just because the eternal laziness that is my human mind, the limits of my

1:36.8

mind that are very quickly becoming superseded by GPT-4, GPT-5, GPT-6 and beyond. The sound of

1:43.6

my voice will soon be generated by AI. The thoughts coming from my mind will soon be generated by AI.

1:49.2

The entirety of wisdom will be generated by language models, large language models that form deep

1:58.2

representations, compressions of human knowledge, and are able to access, search, query, integrate

2:05.2

and generate wisdom. Far, far better than I ever can, which is why I will not be generating wisdom.

2:13.1

I will be sitting in a couch with a zen-like look on my face, appreciating every single moment that

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