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uh... Welcome back to Unconcluded. I'm Sean Gerd. So this is just another update for those of you who have been patiently waiting for the

podcast to resume our regular operations.

We always said that we wanted to keep you up to date with everything that we have going on in

real time. That's the reason that we're bringing you this episode today.

I'll tell you up front that it's going to be kind of all over the place. I have a list of things that I want to share with all of you and

I'm just swinging it from there. So bear with me. And today I really just want to talk about two things.

The recent past and the near future. So let's start with the past.

Over the last couple weeks we've started to reflect on the journey of this podcast and really we've been doing it for a few months and looking

at where we started and where we are now.

And thinking about how much our mindset has changed since those first few days.

And Scott and I just kept talking about how

one of the things that we wanted to do was to go back to square one or go back to the beginning, so to speak, and look at everything that we'd collected to date with the lens of where we are now and what we know now.

And to see if there was something that we missed or something that had seemed insignificant

at the time, but now would seem more important.

So we've been listening back to hours of phone recordings and taped interviews,

and I even followed up with some of the people that had recorded those interviews in the first place.

Many of them you've heard from in previous episodes of the podcast.

And one of the things that we noticed when we started following up with these people after months or in some case years is that in our conversations

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