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Bad People

37. Mr Creepy: Can gun bans prevent school shootings?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

25 years ago, a man walked into Dunblane Primary School and opened fire on a gymnasium full of school children. The horror of this event led to a change in gun legislation - did it work? The US has more school shootings than any other country in the world, should the US adopt the UK’s gun legislation? On this episode of Bad People, Dr. Julia Shaw and comedian Sofie Hagen discuss who is to blame for school shootings and what can be done to prevent them. This episode includes audio from the documentary Dunblane: Our Story, produced by STV Productions Ltd & Berrif McGinty Films Ltd. Warning: This episode contains strong language, discussion of violence towards children and suicide. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultants for The Open University: Lara Frumkin and James Munro #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

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0:00.0

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0:07.4

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0:14.7

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0:22.0

Yeah, match of the day Top 10. Listen only on BBC sounds

0:27.4

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0:35.5

Sophie, have you ever shot a gun before?

0:39.1

No, but I did hold a fake movie gun in a very very short mini

0:46.7

pilot sitcom situation and my character and I will just underline how much this was a character

0:53.8

who was following a script was very anti-gun which I'm also but again, I was a character and

1:01.2

It went out on YouTube and I've gotten death threats from pro-gun people

1:06.2

There was since because they couldn't differentiate between fiction and reality

1:10.8

So that's a closest I've come but you're from

1:14.5

Canada, so I'm assuming you've shot like a couple of bears or something

1:18.0

I have held quite a few guns actually and you're right in Canada

1:21.2

It is not uncommon for households, especially in remote areas to have a gun and it is in fact for bears and wild

1:28.5

No, really yeah, that is not even and I mean you like walk around with like bear sticks that have bells on them and stuff

1:34.6

So that you

1:35.6

Well, it's so that when you're hiking so like you can also when you're hiking have them dance

1:40.6

You know bells on your like ankles sometimes and stuff like when you're walking so that a bear can hear you coming because a bear is much less

1:48.0

Like to attack you if you don't surprise it basically

1:51.4

So this is like all these noise makers to help with the wildlife but guns you also have at home often and

1:57.9

Yeah, I felt a BB gun. I felt a shotgun. I've shot them. I quite like shooting actually

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