Hello, loves. Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. Thank you for joining us. I think you're going to like this conversation we have today that's all about creativity.

But first, I want to tell you about something special. I want to tell you about some new writing and art that I am putting out into the world and how you can join me in launching it. We are about to launch this very exciting first ever virtual live event with me.

And Abby and Amanda to celebrate the launch of Get Untamed, the journal. So the story behind this journal is the first thing I've put out since untamed.

And after the untamed extravaganza people kept asking me, well, that's great that you've gotten untamed. How do we get untamed?

How do we break free from our cages? How do we find that person we were before the world told us who to be?

And this journal is my response to those questions. So like I always say, every life is a absolutely unrepeatable and unprecedented experiment. So I certainly don't have any answers for you. But I think in this journal, I'm pointing you towards the questions that will lead you to those answers that are already inside of you.

So I'm really excited and proud of this journal. I think you're going to love it. It's really beautiful. And to celebrate all of that, we are asking you to come party with us.

All right, at party, you know, how we party. We are celebrating this launch with an event. The event is on November 18th. And we are working with six black owned independent local bookstores.

And they all have special clearance to start shipping books early so that they can land with you before the event. And if you register before the event, but you can't be there live, you get to watch the event for 72 hours after.

Okay, so if you want to come, go to get untamedjournal.com and RSVP and we will see you there.

All right, thank you for letting me tell you about that. Let's jump right into our conversation about creativity.

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to we can do hard things. We're just really grateful to you for always coming back. I want to start today by talking to sister Amanda Flarety Doyle.

Abby and I just talked and talked and talked the last episode about creativity. Well, I mean, I don't know if it was Abby and I.

That's like that's like how I used to say John and I split a bottle of wine every night.

Yeah, like I had half a glass. Yeah, so that's a split.

There you're lying and Abby and I split the conversation. Okay.

Not maybe not equally, but we did split it and it was about creativity and sister. I just am fascinated to talk to you about the role of creativity in your life because as your sister and now creative partner.

And always creative partner. Yeah, always. Yeah, that's true. But just we've come into a different realm recently because of creating this podcast together.

I just want to hear about the role of creativity in your life and have you thought of yourself as a creative person and what does it look and feel like to you these days. I just want to hear all things sister.

Oh, boy. Okay. So I am a creative person. I would not have led with that ever in my life because I think we accept labels on ourselves and kind of assume these little jerseys pretty early on about, you know, that's the sporty one. That's the smart one. That's the creative one. That's the artsy one.

And I think we also give our kids those way too early and they kind of we're trying to give them something that is their own things they can feel good about themselves, but by definition, we're excluding the rest as if those are in applicable.

So it didn't occur to me that I was creative, but I am creative and I use it all the time. And I think listening to you to it occurred to me that we think of create, we think of creativity.

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