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Real Talk with Zuby

#365 Marni Kinrys - The Truth About Dating, Gender Roles & Attraction

Real Talk with Zuby

Zuby

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4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Marni Kinrys, widely known as 'The Wing Girl', is a veteran dating coach with over 20 years of experience helping men navigate the complex world of attraction and relationships. Marni shares her journey to becoming the first female voice in the male-dominated pickup artist community. Zuby and Marni discuss gender differences in communication, coaching, and romantic expectations, as well as delusion, body image, and the role of honesty in dating. The conversation also covers how technology and social media have shifted dating dynamics, the decline in marriage, and predictions for the future of gender relations.


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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:41) Marni’s background & coaching journey

(04:39) Entering the PUA world

(06:46) Transforming dating advice

(08:31) Reactions to her work & motivation

(13:19) Meeting her husband & family life

(16:10) Raising boys & coaching men vs women

(18:29) Insights from coaching men

(21:06) Childhood & emotional dynamics

(22:21) Coaching styles & communication

(25:25) Lies, delusion & body image

(56:22) Tech’s impact on dating & gender roles

(1:19:51) Future of relationships & uplifting men

(1:27:35) Outro



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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.6

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0:09.3

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0:27.0

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0:30.5

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0:37.0

of understanding your power as a man

0:39.4

and its impact that it has on women. Once you understand what women are wanting from you,

0:46.0

all of these different methods and modalities for interacting with women are really easy to navigate.

0:53.3

What's up, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls around the world?

0:55.4

I'd like to welcome you back to the Real Talk with Zubi podcast.

0:59.2

And on today's episode, we have got on a dating expert.

1:03.3

She has been in the game for a couple of decades now, built up a massive following online.

1:08.8

And this is Marnie Kineris.

1:10.2

Welcome to the show.

1:11.1

Did you see as I rolled my eyes a couple of decades? I'm so old. It's crazy. Yes, I've been

1:16.0

doing this for 21 years. It's insane. I'm embarrassed sometimes to even say that. I'm like,

1:22.2

well, so this morning when I came down here, I have a shoot after this and like my boobs are popping out and my father-in-law is here visiting.

1:29.5

And he's like, whoa, what's that outfit? I'm like, I'm not 25 anymore. People don't care to listen to

1:34.3

just what's in my mind. They need to see some boobs too or else they won't watch my videos anymore.

1:38.8

So old. It's crazy. Marnie, I have just given a very brief intro there.

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