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The BEMA Podcast

362: Isaiah — Prophetic Pathos

The BEMA Podcast

BEMA Discipleship

Hermeneutics, Religion & Spirituality, Scripture, Jewish Context, Biblical, Judaism, Bible, Christianity

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Baimel podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today, I'm with Marty and Reed Dent, as we begin our journey deep into the prophecy of Isaiah by considering what we can learn from Abraham Joshua Heschel about the prophetic pathos.

0:22.0

We have a good little series here to kick off season, session eight, and we probably want to do some setup. I want to do, what was it, Brent? Was there 10, 12 episodes that I have?

0:35.0

And I think the rest of the team is going to add to that. But we got a good 10 to 15 episodes at least of Isaiah conversation. And it's hard to just dive right in. It's been a while since we did prophets session two. It was a long time ago.

0:49.0

So we've learned some things. I actually have some questions to set us up if you don't mind. Well, why not? We're either going to say later or we're going to answer them.

0:59.0

I want to know, you know, just thinking through the mind of a Baimel listener who, you know, they listen to everything, but they begrudgingly listen to session two.

1:13.0

And really like, like, haven't we gone past that? We got to Jesus. We understand. We see the, I get it. Jesus quoted Isaiah. He fulfilled Isaiah.

1:25.0

And I know fulfilling is, you know, not quite what I originally thought. I know that it's more about like, you know, what I like, I understand all that. But now that we've got to Jesus, why do we need to go back to Isaiah? What is the, what is the point of reading? I say, I guess there is none.

1:40.0

We should just cancel. I guess that's it. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to you again soon. There you go. Read's got a series up on Psalms up next on the Baimel podcast. All right.

1:50.0

We already talked about that too. We don't need to, I think we're done. We did the whole Bible.

1:55.0

I think reads making a great point in his wonderful reading kind of a way.

2:00.0

Because yeah, the Bible is this never ending wrestling matching conversation. And I had to go study some more, because I wasn't prepared to do an in depth.

2:11.0

And we're still not going super in depth, but I wasn't, I wasn't prepared to go a layer deeper in Isaiah. It's a big, big book, big conversation, big profit.

2:20.0

Is this going to be like a, a verse by verse like we did with John, not even a little, not even a little, we were doing that for three years. So we took a one whole year to do John. There's three times as many chapters.

2:33.0

So not even a little, we're not going to, we're not even going to get close to verse by verse, but section by section. I mean, last time we did a podcast for each one of the voices that I personally liked and identified for.

2:47.0

But let's go one layer deeper and go like two or three episodes per each one of those sections. That's, that's kind of what we're going to do. But yeah, it's, it is the most quoted book by Jesus, most quoted, Jesus quotes all three parts of Tanakh.

3:05.0

Psalms being the most quoted in Ketuvim. Isaiah being the most quoted in the, never, never him. And then Deuteronomy being the most quoted in Torah.

3:16.0

So probably, and I did a big study, Brent and preparation. I didn't know which profits I wanted to dive deep in. So I just read the whole section of my library.

3:26.0

I just read all the sources I had on profits. 80, 90% of them were just garbage, just fewer garbage. How many books is that wasn't nearly as much as you might think. I thought it was going to be more. And my profit section is very weak, which probably even relates to Brent's question here. Like, why would we want to do.

3:45.0

I mean, that's probably not the popular portion of, of scripture. So yeah, I probably read through, I probably had 12 of my own sources, maybe a few of those were multi volume sources in one volume, whatever I'm trying to say, two or three books in one volume.

4:03.0

But yeah, I, I, the only two profits that I can, I mean, I looked at, nacho, I looked at Habakkuk, I did two sources on Jonah. And I feel like I've like exhausted in so many ways, my thoughts on Jonah and so many different platforms. But the only two profits I was drawn to were Isaiah and Hosea. And so, so I don't know if I'll do a Hosea series, maybe next season. I don't know. But those are the only two were the.

4:30.0

They felt like there was more to say at this point, which means I just need to keep studying. But that's why that's why for me. I don't know for the typical Bay Mahlisner, but that's why matters for me.

4:41.0

Well, and I guess that sort of leads into my next question. As you've read all of these terrible takes on Isaiah and other profits. What is and specifically about Isaiah, where do scholars and other thinkers go wrong when they're trying to tackle Isaiah?

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