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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

361. Husbands, Fathers, Warriors & Kings | Senator Josh Hawley

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Society & Culture, Science

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2023

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Missouri senator Josh Hawley discuss his new book, “Manhood,” and break down the importance and depth of the biblical ideals that have shaped society - and particularly the west - in a historically unprecedented manner. Josh Hawley is a constitutional lawyer, the U.S. Senator for Missouri, and the bestselling author of “The Tyranny of Big Tech.” His newest publication, “Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs,” is available now and seeks to defend the positive and necessary attributes of masculinity across leadership, governance, and the everyday structure of American life. Men of character are needed for a civilization to thrive, and today's America, the west, has openly sought to destroy the foundational and biblical principles that create them. - Links - For Senator Josh Hawley Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Manhood-America-Needs-Josh-Hawley/dp/168451357X Website (Personal) https://joshhawley.com/ Website (Senator) https://www.hawley.senate.gov/ Twitter https://twitter.com/HawleyMO?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Today I'm speaking once again with Constitutional lawyer, Missouri

0:19.8

Senator and best-selling author, Josh Hawley. We discuss his new book, Manhood, Exploring

0:25.9

the Structural Significance of Biblical Tradition within People's Lives. How those enduring

0:30.8

narratives elevate us above human defaults such as tyranny and slavery. Why self-mastery

0:36.2

is the precondition for ordered liberty? Why young men have lapsed in education, industry,

0:41.4

and reproduction? And what steps might be available to help, well, individuals and our society

0:47.5

put itself back in something like habitable order. Looking forward to it.

0:53.4

So I've been reading your book this morning, and it was sort of a strange experience,

0:58.2

I would say, because strangely enough, or maybe not, it's structured in a manner that's

1:04.8

almost identical to the book that I'm writing at the moment.

1:07.8

How about that?

1:09.2

Yeah, yeah. So I'm writing this book called We Who Ressel with God, and I'm obviously

1:16.1

animated by the same spirit, so to speak, that you are, because the books parallel

1:20.3

each other quite remarkably. And so I'm hoping my book will be better, but we'll see.

1:29.2

I have no doubt. I have no doubt.

1:30.7

Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I have my doubts, but we're aiming at the same

1:37.3

thing. One of the things I've been trying to struggle with, too, is you list in your

1:41.2

book a number of stories. You're using Biblical stories primarily. And then a number of attributes

1:47.0

that you think constitute what might constitute or what might comprise the central aspect of

1:55.3

masculinity. And so one of the things I've been seeing in this, as I've been walking through

2:00.4

the same process, is that the Biblical corpus, which is a library, aggregates a set of

2:07.0

illustrative stories, and then uses those stories to describe a character to be emulated,

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