Hello, this is Monica Reinagle, and you're listening to the nutrition divas quick and dirty tips for eating well and feeling fabulous.

I just read a very interesting book called The Good News About What's Bad for You and the Bad News about What's good for you by Jeff Wilzer. Now we all work so

hard to get it right to eat the right things to get enough exercise to avoid bad

habits and if you ever feel like it's all just getting to be too much, you're

going to love this book because it reminds us that almost anything you can do has both

upsides and downsides and that obsessing about every little thing is silly and counterproductive.

And joining me today to talk about all this good news and bad news is the author, Jeff

Wilzer. Welcome Jeff.

Great to be here.

Thanks for having me.

So for those of you who, for those of my listeners who don't know you already,

Jeff's a nationally syndicated writer who has written about everything from health to World War II history to hashtags for publications including

GQ, New York magazine, Esquire, the Chicago TriB, my own hometown newspaper, the Baltimore Sun, and even the Huffington Post.

So Jeff, as a fellow mythbuster and a moderatorist, I loved the concept for your book using science to demonstrate that most vices have at least one virtue and vice versa and what I took from that is we shouldn't worry too much about the occasional

indulgence but also that maybe we shouldn't feel too smug or overconfident

just because we eat our vegetables. That's exactly right.

I think that all of us, we all want to be healthier and I think we often are made to feel fear, right,

or feel being inadequate.

Like every day there's some new study saying oh like be

concerned about this or don't do this or do this and even when we think okay

like I exercise a decent amount.

I try and eat, you know, kind of healthy,

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