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🗓️ 11 August 2025
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Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and best-selling author known for distilling complex neuroscience and psychology into practical strategies for behavior change, performance, and decision-making. In this episode, Charles explores the neuroscience behind habit formation, including how cue-routine-reward loops drive nearly half of our daily actions and why positive reinforcement is far more effective than punishment. He explains how institutions like the military and Alcoholics Anonymous engineer environments to change behavior at scale, as well as discussing the limits of willpower and how to preserve it by shaping context. The conversation also covers the real timeline of habit formation, how to teach better habits to kids, the role of failure and self-compassion in lasting change, and the power of social accountability. Charles further discusses how cognitive routines enhance productivity and creativity, how to gamify long-term goals through immediate rewards, why identity and purpose are often the strongest forces behind sustainable behavior change, and the potential of AI to power habit change.
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1:04.1 | My guest this week is Charles Duhigg. |
1:07.0 | Charles is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and the author of several best-selling books, |
1:12.0 | including The Power of Habit and Smarter, Faster, Better, and Most Recently, Supercommunicators. |
1:19.0 | He is one of the most trusted voices on the science of behavior change, performance, and decision-making. |
1:25.4 | And he's known for translating complex, psychological, and neuroscience research into actionable insights that improve everyday life. |
1:32.3 | I want to have Charles on the show because habits are the foundation for integrating nearly everything we talk about on this podcast when it comes to improving lifespan and health span, whether it's exercise, nutrition, sleep, or emotional regulation. |
1:44.6 | If the behavior doesn't stick, the benefits won't accrue. |
1:48.9 | In this episode, we discussed the neuroscience of habit formation, how Q, routine, reward loops |
1:54.6 | govern nearly half our daily behaviors, and why understanding this loop is integral to behavior |
2:00.1 | change. |
2:04.6 | Why positive reinforcement is 20 times more effective than punishment, and how to harness rewards to build lasting habits, |
2:07.6 | how the military, Alcoholics Anonymous, and behavior change research |
2:12.6 | structure environments to transform behaviors at scale. |
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