As you know, Walter Mondale died Monday, April 19th, and I find myself just very sad that Fritz is no longer here.

A truly wonderful man and a very good friend, to all his friends, and to me, he helped me

when very few people thought I could win, and he stood by me when some others walked away.

Fritz and I sat down in his office in August of 2019 for this podcast, and I thought I'd replay it for you.

You know, it's funny. His Christmas card to me and Franny somehow got held up, and we only got it

just last week. And in very strong hand, he wrote,

Dear Alan Franny, I miss you.

Well, I miss him.

I hope you enjoy my conversation with Vice President Walter Mondale. Again, this was an interview that we did

in his office on August 19th of 2019. Vice President Walter Mondale is my guest here and we're recording in his office. He works

at the at a law firm here in Minneapolis and so we're doing that. So you may hear

interruptions. He is just beloved here in Minnesota and for a reason he is 91 years old now and has served

the state he served the state for a really long time and this country he was in the Senate

at a time when it was working better than it does now. Let's just put it that way.

A lot of it, I think, has to do with what happened during the period that he was there, and

specifically the civil rights bill. Before the civil rights bill, the civil rights bill we had a

Democratic Party that was liberal and progressive and conservative and the

Republican Party was conservative and then it had these northeastern Republicans

who were liberal and progressive.

So what happened to get anything done, you had to work across party lines.

And that doesn't happen now.

And that is a shame.

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