What is going on?

Everybody, welcome to episode number 36 of Trail tales my name is Kyle O'Grady I'm a

through hiker I am a peak bagger I love to hike if you are any of those things or you love to

hike as well I encourage you to subscribe to the show. Check us out on Instagram. Every single week

I chat with another through hiker or another peak bagger or another person that's as into

hiking as I am and we have a lot of fun here. If you are a regular listener, welcome back.

This week's guest is a man named Nick Scarmuzzo.

He's done a bunch of hiking in the Catskills. So we talk about this Cat Skills,

3,500 footer club thing. We also talk a little bit about bear canisters and some of the

regulations in the Adirondacks. That was not planned. It just kind of came up,

and I thought it was pretty cool. And then we also spent some time talking about the John Muir Trail,

because Nick is heading out to hike that in just a couple weeks, and we talk about some of his

preparation for that, and specifically the permit system, the crazy, crazy permit system that

hikers have to navigate in order to go hike,

the JMT. I had a lot of fun with this one. I feel like it was pretty good because we kind of got

a little bit of stuff for everybody. You know, we got the East Coast hikers with the Catskills and

Adirondack talk. We got the West Coast hikers with the JMT talk. So I had a great time with this one.

Nick, when you hear this, dude, thank you so, so much. Let's have another episode. When

you get back from your through hike, I really, really appreciate it. Don't hit that skip

button. I know that's what you're about to do. You heard what we're going to talk about during

the episode, and now you skip the rest of the introduction so you can actually get to the conversation. Like, I get that, but hold up for just a

second. I got to say a couple things here, and then we'll get into it, I promise. The first thing and

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