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See Audible.co.uk for terms. I'm a feminist, but yesterday, I read an article from Jeremy

Clarkson, in which he said some, like, things about trans rights that maybe go, Jeremy Clarkson.

I mean, I wouldn't say all this for given, obviously not, but fair play, I might watch one

episode of Top Gear, like in exchange. What he said was, he basically did a sort of,

do you know, do you read that Mitchel Web sketch of, where the bad is?

He did it, are we the baddies? He went, just thinking, when I was young, we used to go,

oh, he's going to go to the gish-gah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

and now some of our friends are gay and we feel stupid. Do you think the same thing is going to

happen with trans people? And maybe we should not do what we're doing. And I went, Jeremy Clarkson,

I hate agreeing with you so much, but you, you're, I mean, I think he's going to be more convincing

to people, to men of his generation than I am. Yeah, he's going to shepherd them.

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