This is one of the weirdest, most fascinating stories of an ex-scientologist.

It's Natalie Webster on today.

Do go check out her YouTube channel, Webster X Corg. Corg is the inner sanctum of

Scientology in which she worked but she grew up in Hawaii and things were all a

little bit different and she came face to face with the murderer of

John Lennon. So that's pretty unusual for a start so she'll talk all about that and then her mom married

what was essentially her grandfather after her stepdad it was all just bonkers and it's hard to even keep up with as you go on.

She's wonderful, she's really eloquent and tells her story brilliantly. She's a lot of fun as well.

So I hope you enjoy this episode of Heretics, because that's what this is.

Loads of big episodes are coming up. But now you're with the Herritic that is ex-scientologist Natalie Webster.

Natalie how you doing?

I am doing fantastic Andrew. Thanks for having me.

That's great.

You've got one of the stranger stories.

I hope you don't mind me saying that.

Aaron Smith Levin introduced us.

He's our friend.

He's one of my favorite people in the world from growing up in Scientology. He doesn't force me to mention his

channel name or anything like that. I just thought I might do that because why not?

And he's lovely and he introduces and you told me some parts about your story.

I was absolutely mesmerized.

There's stuff to do with John Lennon,

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