352: Indigenous Horror with Shane Hawk and Theodore C. Van Alst Jr.
Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore
Multitude
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 September 2023
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
We’re joined by the editors of Never Whistle at Night: An Indigenous Dark Fiction Anthology, Shane Hawk and Theodore C. Van Alst. They talk about finding community online, what makes Native stories post-apocalyptic, and the expectation of writing horror.
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Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of possession, colonialism, racism, gore, and tokenism.
Guests
Shane Hawk (enrolled Cheyenne-Arapaho, Hidatsa and Potawatomi descent) is a history teacher by day and a horror writer by night. Hawk is the author of Anoka: A Collection of Indigenous Horror and other short fiction featured in numerous anthologies.
Theodore C. Van Alst Jr. (enrolled member, Mackinac Bands of Chippewa and Ottawa Indians) is the author of the novel Sacred Smokes, winner of the Tillie Olsen Award for Creative Writing, and Sacred City, winner of the Electa Quinney Award for Published Stories. His Pushcart-nominated fiction has been published in Southwest Review, Unnerving Magazine, Red Earth Review, The Journal of Working-Class Studies, Massachusetts Review, The Raven Chronicles, and Yellow Medicine Review, among others. He is a professor and chair of Indigenous Nations Studies at Portland State University.
Housekeeping
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Cast & Crew
- Co-Hosts: Julia Schifini and Amanda McLoughlin
- Editors: Brandon Grugle
- Music: Brandon Grugle, based on "Danger Storm" by Kevin MacLeod
- Artwork: Allyson Wakeman
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About Us
Spirits is a boozy podcast about mythology, legends, and folklore. Every episode, co-hosts Julia and Amanda mix a drink and discuss a new story or character from a wide range of places, eras, and cultures. Learn brand-new stories and enjoy retellings of your favorite myths, served over ice every week, on Spirits.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | MUSIC |
| 0:29.5 | Welcome to Spirits Podcast, a boozy dive into mythology, legends, and folklore. |
| 0:34.0 | Every week we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world. |
| 0:37.0 | I'm Amanda. |
| 0:38.0 | And I'm Julia. |
| 0:39.0 | And we are so honored to be joined by the co-editors of Neverwistla at Night, an Indigenous |
| 0:43.0 | Dark Fiction Anthology, Shane Hawk, and Ted Van Elst. |
| 0:47.0 | Welcome, guys. |
| 0:48.0 | Hey, thanks for having us. |
| 0:49.0 | Yeah, thanks for having us. |
| 0:50.0 | It is absolutely our pleasure. |
| 0:52.0 | We are so excited to get to promote the book and talk to y'all about the process in which |
| 0:58.0 | it's made and maybe some Indigenous traditions that get highlighted in the book. |
| 1:03.0 | How about to get us started? |
| 1:04.0 | You could tell the listeners a little bit about what the anthology is all about. |
| 1:08.0 | Sure. |
| 1:09.0 | So it came about basically from Twitter, which no one really likes anymore. |
| 1:15.0 | But it's where we all grew our careers. |
| 1:18.0 | We made things happen on Twitter. |
| 1:20.0 | But anyways, someone named Bear basically put out an awesome tweet that said, |
| 1:25.0 | Hey, when are we going to get a native horror anthology? |
| 1:30.0 | And so Ted came across it first. |
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