35. UNBOUND with Tarana Burke—Part 2

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 14 October 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

We’re continuing our conversation with activist, founder of the me too movement, and our personal friend and hero,Tarana Burke. We talk about: 1. What Tarana would say to her twelve-year-old self that might have changed the trajectory of her life. 2. Tarana’s life-shifting realization that her relationship struggles with her mother were not due to her mother’s lack of desire to love her well, but her lack of capacity—and how Tarana built more capacity for her own child. 3. The one thing Tarana said to her child that changed everything—and why Amanda now says the same thing to her children. CW: We reference sexual abuse and trauma. About Tarana: For more than 25 years, activist and advocate Tarana J. Burke has worked at the intersection of sexual violence and racial justice. Fueled by commitments to interrupt sexual violence and other systemic inequalities disproportionately impacting marginalized people, particularly Black women and girls, Tarana has created and led various campaigns focused on increasing access to resources and support for impacted communities, including the ‘me too.’ movement, which to date has galvanized millions of survivors and allies around the world. Book: Unbound: My Story of Liberation and the Birth of the Me Too Movement Instagram: @taranajaneen Twitter: @TaranaBurke To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. We are not going to waste any time today. We're
0:12.5	going to jump right back in with our friend and author of Unbound, Tarana Burke.
0:18.8	We ended Tuesday's episode with an emotional story about Rob, about how Tarana found
0:24.8	dance as a place to safely explore her sexuality with no demands on her body. And we also talk
0:32.1	about the double bind that so many survivors of sexual trauma have, which is the same bodies
0:38.5	which are the portals through which we access our pleasure and sexuality are the same
0:44.4	bodies that have been poisoned by a solter's ashamed. So let's pick back up. Let's hear
0:50.5	from Tarana. Tarana, have you heard from other survivors who find dancing to be a place
0:56.6	where they can feel free and not feel afraid? Is that a thing? It is. Kaya. My kid, they
1:05.6	write about it in the, you are your best thing. The book I did with Brunei. They're essay,
1:10.1	which is right. They talk about discovering pole dancing. Yes. Which was a whole thing
1:18.7	for Mama. I invested a lot of time and money in being a dance mom. We were, you know, ballet
1:27.4	tap jazz, minor, and African. Where did poles come from? They added their own category.
1:34.7	Oh, you didn't have it in the original plan. And I went through all the emotions that a lot
1:42.7	of parents would first like, what? But I remember we were in, I had to go to Barcelona for
1:50.3	an event in 2018 or 2019. And just playing around at Kaya is an amazing dance generally. Just
1:58.4	beautiful dance. I thought that's the direction we were going to Albale but apparently. And they,
2:05.7	they were playing around and they jumped up on a pole in Spain. And I watched them contort on
2:15.2	this pole and I was like, oh, I get it now. This is a talent. This is a skill unlike anything that
2:25.7	most of us have. And I had to relent. And they said, you know, I just feel, it makes me feel
2:31.4	powerful. It makes me feel alive and connected to my own body. And I said, spin around, baby,
2:39.3	do what you got to do. They know, Toronto, do they know how to get us or what?
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