#35 — Bart Ehrman | Did Jesus Even Claim to be God?

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Alex O'Connor

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🗓️ 19 June 2023

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Bart Ehrman is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored six New York Times bestsellers. (Wikipedia)

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0:00.0	Welcome to Within Reason. My name is Alex O'Connor, and I'm joined today by perhaps the world's
0:19.8	most famous New Testament scholar, Dr. Bart Irman. Dr. Roman, thank you for being here.
0:24.9	Thanks for having me. It's a real pleasure to sit down with you when thinking about what to
0:29.7	spend this time talking about. I was a bit struck by the breadth of your work and a little bit
0:34.7	paralyzed in terms of choosing a conversation topic, but I think that the majority of my listeners
0:41.9	will know you in the context of your critical scholarship and some of your debates that you've had
0:46.4	with Christians about the nature of the New Testament and the nature of Jesus. So I wanted to
0:51.6	begin by asking, in your view, the figure of Jesus, the most important figure in Christianity,
0:56.9	and if Christianity is true, the most important figure in history, what can we know about Jesus
1:03.4	of Nazareth? Right. Okay. So, right, this is the sound bite, right? What can we know? So this has been,
1:13.6	this has been arguably the major problem, one of the major problems of the study of Christianity,
1:21.5	not just the New Testament, ever. I mean, one of the first people who tried to start studying
1:32.8	the New Testament from a critical point of view. In other words, not simply accepting it as an
1:37.7	inspired word of God that is infallible, but started examining it from a critical perspective,
1:43.2	was Hermann's Samuel R. Amara's, his book got published in the 1770s, but it had to do with
1:51.1	who was Jesus, really. And he ended up arguing that Jesus was a political insurgent who wanted
1:58.4	to overthrow the Roman Empire. But this view has, you know, reappeared over time, raised
2:05.4	an assailant as that view in his book zealot. But it started the idea that in fact, you can't just
2:11.8	use these gospels as saying it as it is. You've got to examine the gospels to see where they're
2:17.3	accurate, where they're inaccurate, how do you know, how do you know what's historical. And so I would
2:23.1	say that scholars have huge, a huge range of, a range of opinions about this, this question.
2:30.3	I would say that most scholars would agree at least, most critical scholars would agree that Jesus,
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