What is going on? Welcome to the Exodus podcast. This is Jake Hofer. And this week we have the last leg of our conversation with Skip Sly from Iowa. And this is about hunting way back when versus hunting now. What's different? What's better? What's worse? And the future of hunting, which is, I think, something that is on the top of mind for a lot of people. And so we had three parts of this conversation. If you want to listen to the second part, you can head over to the Land Podcast and catch that episode. It is live right now. I encourage you guys to do so, talks about some White Tail Miss, some of the biggest mistakes he's made when it comes to

managing a farm, buying ground, and just a really fun conversation about coyotes. And I think

it'll be very entertaining for you guys. So I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. If you

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support us. Hope you guys enjoy this conversation. Let's get into it. Here we go. Well, I guess jumping

20 years back, we've been in the future. We've been the we've been in the past. Let's go back to

your early days of hunting of trying to figure out how to get on mature bucks. It's June right now.

What for someone that has not killed a mature book or maybe they've only killed like two mature bucks

and they're like I want this year to be the best year ever. And this is generalized.

So let's assume you don't know if they're hunting public. You don't know if they have a lease.

You don't know if they're hunting behind grandma's house. You don't know if they have 500 acres.

What are some key things that people need to be considering and doing right now to hopefully get on a mature buck?

So I think it's only going to be like always, I don't think this will ever change.

It's only going to be a small piece of the pie that does get on mature bucks because it's a lot of,

it's a lot of work.

And I still think today if you're willing to do the work you you can get on mature bucks and everybody wants to

get so complex and it is it is complex but i think they over complexify what it takes to get on a

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