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Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore

348: Nazi Zombies (with Dr. Claire E. Aubin)

Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore

Multitude

Myths, Folklore, Society & Culture, Alcohol, Legends, Learning, Urbanlegends, Mythology, Comedy, History, Education, Gods, Educational, Drunkhistory

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re joined by historian Dr. Claire E. Aubin to talk about Nazism, monsters, and the combination of the two. We also discuss researching heavy topics, creating a supportive community, and Sharkenstein.

Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of the Holocaust, antisemitism, racism, violence, murder, dehumanization, child death, and genocide.

Guest

Dr. Claire E. Aubin is a historian of Holocaust perpetration, American public conception of Holocaust perpetrators, and Nazism. She also researches and teaches on antisemitism within the American Christian/far/alt-right. She is currently in the process of adapting her PhD dissertation on Holocaust perpetrators as immigrants to the post-war US into a book.

Housekeeping

- Recommendation: This week, Amanda recommends the new season of Big Brother (featuring Cirie Fields)!

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Cast & Crew

- Co-Hosts: Julia Schifini and Amanda McLoughlin

- Editors: Eric Schneider and Brandon Grugle

- Music: Brandon Grugle, based on "Danger Storm" by Kevin MacLeod

- Artwork: Allyson Wakeman

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About Us

Spirits is a boozy podcast about mythology, legends, and folklore. Every episode, co-hosts Julia and Amanda mix a drink and discuss a new story or character from a wide range of places, eras, and cultures. Learn brand-new stories and enjoy retellings of your favorite myths, served over ice every week, on Spirits.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Mom-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah...

0:02.7

Welcome to Spirit's podcast, a boozy dive into mythology, legends and

0:32.7

folklore, every week we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world. I'm

0:36.5

Amanda, and I'm Julia, and we are so excited to be joined by Dr. Claire E. Aubin, who is going

0:41.9

to tell us a whole lot about monsters and Nazis and everything in between, maybe ghost

0:47.3

stories, maybe what you love about academia and monsters and monstersness, got them excited.

0:53.5

Welcome Claire to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to get into it. We are so stoked

0:58.3

as well, just to kind of start off. Can you tell people a little bit about what your work tends

1:04.9

to focus on in academia? Sure. Yeah. So I've just finished my PhD and my PhD dissertation, and most

1:13.9

of what I work on was on Holocaust perpetrators, so not just like general Nazis, but people

1:19.7

who specifically perpetrated the Holocaust as immigrants to the post-war US. So looking at

1:26.5

this sort of like Nazi next door trope and this sort of imagination that surrounds what a

1:34.2

Nazi after the war looks like and specifically like hidden or concealed Nazis in America look

1:39.4

like. So I do a lot of sort of work. Obviously on that and on their actual lives and experiences

1:44.9

and how those compare to the narratives that we have about them, but also a lot of work

1:50.3

on sort of what Nazis in popular culture and American culture look like and sort of the

1:54.6

conception that we have around them. So that's a lot of what I do. I also do a lot of stuff

1:58.8

on sort of the the right and anti-Semitism in the US at the moment, but it still kind of tends

2:05.7

to come back to our idea of like what evil and Nazism and all of these things look like versus

2:12.5

what they actually are. Yeah. That's such a fascinating subject. And like you think about kind

2:19.3

of the way that I guess after the Cold War, we kind of went away from Nazis of the bad guy in

2:26.9

like films and how we're kind of coming back to it at the same time. Like I know we got Nazis

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