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Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Galen. Today, I'm joined by award-winning reporter for the Wall Street Journal, Dana Madi Oliver. Dana has written for the journal for

nearly two decades and has covered Amazon since 2019. Before covering Amazon, she covered

mergers and acquisitions, one of the

journal's highest profile beats. Her brand new book, out yesterday, is The Everything More,

Amazon's ruthless quest to own the world and remake corporate power and is now available

wherever fine books are sold, even Amazon. Today she's coming to us from New York City. Dana,

welcome to the show.

Thanks so much for having me. There's a line in here towards the beginning of the book, Dana, about how when Jeff Bezos was talking about Amazon and then it sort of became part of the

culture is that, you know, he wanted Amazon to be in every part of your life, which he has succeeded.

But it made me think about that, um, that old clip from

the office when Ryan Howard goes to New York to create Dunder Mifflin 2.0, uh, where, you know,

they had a social media site and all this other stuff. And, you know, that was a joke in a show

a long time ago. But the truth is, is Amazon is everywhere all the time. You really

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