Welcome back to the Exodus podcast this week. We have a great episode with Steve Hanson.

If you don't know Steve, we've had him here on the Exodus podcast and the land podcast

a handful of times now. And Steve moved to Iowa from Illinois and has worked on a lot of farms,

eat, sleeps, breeze, white tails, land. And we talk about some projects that he would suggest,

some that he would put lower on the totem pole.

We talk about how Iowa has changed over the last 20 years, even from the cost of governor's tag in 2008 to 2024.

And just a really good conversation.

If you like White Tails, you like lane improvements, you like learning about things of the past and how it might impact the future. Hope you guys really enjoy this episode. As always, head over to a website, Exodus Outdoorier.com. Check out the lift 4K. We're pre-selling that right now. Sign up for our email newsletter for all of our most recent and up-to-date news that we will share to you guys and obviously here on the podcast as well. Hope you guys have a great week. Let's get into this episode.

Here we go.

Steve, good. How's it going? Hey, going good, man. How about you? It's going good. I'm excited to catch up. I know we stay in touch, but it's always fun to, like, really dive into some topics here, which we're going to be doing here today. before we get into it,

have you been on the podcast here a handful of times now,

but go ahead and introduce yourself for anyone that hasn't caught

one of those episodes. Oh, my name is Steve Hanson. We live in South Central Iowa and kind of

are involved in everything, White Tails in Iowa here from real estate and land management.

Yeah, yeah, for decades of experience. I always get excited when I get to talk to people in Iowa here from real estate and land management. Yeah.

Yeah, for decades of experience.

I always get excited when I get to talk to people to have literally decades of experience

because there's so many things that you have seen and learned over the years and mistakes

you've made and can flatten the learning curve for other people.

So I'm excited to flatten the learning curve here a little bit, hopefully today.

But what, when you, when you moved to Iowa and became that full-time resident,

obviously, Illinois, you grew up in Illinois. Right. And do you think Illinois and Iowa were closer than than what they are today in terms of quality of white tail?

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