At any turn, the point is, black people on the continent and across the diaspora

have shaped everything that is cool about fashion and grooming and hairstyling.

Many enslaved women... and grooming and hair styling.

Many enslaved women would take their meager earnings and they would use it to go buy fabric.

Black tailors, people who are creating their own sartorial realities,

it was their own kind of fashion world building if you will.

We're the woke generation who's pushing back against the respectability of our grandparents,

but it's like not all your grandparents were invested in respectability, and they were using

Denham as a way to hearken back to this history of black people working the fields in the rural south.

This is the secret lives of black women. I'm Lauren. I'm Charlotte and today we are talking about

fashion, clothes, trends, but most importantly the historical aspects of those trends and

defining yourself through the way that you dress. I'm really interested in this

conversation because I really feel that I can look back on

different like outfits or things that I was wearing that define very specific

moments of my life and a deeper connectivity to blackness or another experience

just based on the things that I'm wearing that I'm really interested in

getting a deeper about that like I because it's like I think

about clothes but I don't really think about like what does it mean to wear certain

things and I think I've never been I don't think I've ever been particularly, like when we were in high school, when we were in middle school, like that's when everyone, like it matters so much what you're wearing because everybody's judging you. But then as I got older, I was just like,

I don't really care what I'm wearing.

And now I'm back to this cycle of like,

I actually kind of do care about what I'm wearing.

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