3373: [Part 1] Rethinking the 4 Percent Safe Withdrawal Rule by Fritz Gilbert of The Retirement Manifesto

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🗓️ 2 December 2025

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Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3373: Fritz Gilbert challenges the conventional 4% safe withdrawal rule, arguing that its simplicity may be dangerously outdated given today’s market conditions. He outlines key concerns about relying on historical data, inflated equity valuations, and rising interest rates, and hints at three practical adjustments he personally uses to reduce risk in retirement spending. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.theretirementmanifesto.com/rethinking-the-4-safe-withdrawal-rule/ Quotes to ponder: "Bond prices are inversely related to interest rates, so as rates go up, bond prices go down." "Assuming a minimum requirement of 30 years of portfolio longevity, a first-year withdrawal of 4 percent, followed by inflation-adjusted withdrawals in subsequent years, should be safe." "If you’re holding 60% stocks and 40% bonds, it’s possible that you could see decreases in both asset classes." Episode references: GMO Forecast via Wealth of Common Sense: https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2021/10/the-worst-stock-and-bond-returns-ever/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:13.9	This is Optimal Finance Daily. Rethinking the 4% Safe Withdrawal Rule, Part 1 by Fritz Gilbert of
1:23.0	the Retirement Manifesto.com. The 4% safe withdrawal rule is a well-known rule for those planning for retirement.
1:33.6	One thing it has going for it is that it's simple to apply.
1:37.7	If you have a million dollars, the 4% safe withdrawal rule says you can spend $40,000,
1:43.7	or 4% of $1 million in year one of retirement.
1:48.8	Increase your spending by the rate of inflation each year and you'll never run out of money.
1:54.3	Simple indeed. But I'd argue that simplicity comes at a potentially very serious cost, like potentially running out of money in retirement.
2:05.4	Today, I'll present my argument against the 4% Safe Withdrawal Rule, given our current economic situation,
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