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335. Does Doing Good Give You License to Be Bad?

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🗓️ 17 May 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Corporate Social Responsibility programs can attract better job applicants who'll work for less money. But they also encourage employees to misbehave. Don't laugh — you too probably engage in “moral licensing,” even if you don't know it.

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0:00.0

There's a big trend in business that you may not be aware of.

0:05.4

It is the practice of what's called corporate social responsibility or CSR.

0:10.4

You have 90% of G250 companies, with these global Fortune 250 companies, 90% of them are

0:19.6

now publishing annual CSR reports.

0:23.7

So you say they're publishing annual CSR reports, is that am I to infer than that they're

0:29.4

actually doing CSR or they're just publishing reports about it?

0:33.7

Yeah, I can't vouch for what each particular company is doing, but I would say buy and

0:38.6

large firms are trying to do the right thing and I think also some people think that that's

0:43.6

a way to enhance the bottom line. That's our friend John List.

0:48.5

And I'm an economist at the University of Chicago.

0:51.6

So let's just give me a quick basket, I guess, of either activities or declarations that constitute

1:01.6

modern CSR. In other words, firms do what? What does it include?

1:06.5

I would think about it is every dollar we earn, we give a nickel to charity or we use items that

1:16.1

aren't produced by child workers. We're trying to make the world a better place and we're

1:21.2

willing to even give a profit to make the world a better place.

1:26.4

Is that really why so many firms practice CSR? Many businesses large and small surely are

1:32.6

populated by people with good intentions and pure hearts, but you can also imagine some less

1:38.6

than pure reasons for a company to embrace CSR, maybe to make itself more appealing to customers

1:46.1

or to shore up a fragile or damaged reputation, maybe even to balance out some questionable

1:53.0

business practices. One of John List's predecessor economists at the University of Chicago

1:58.3

was skeptical about CSR on an almost existential level.

2:02.9

Milton Friedman argued CSR is a fundamentally subversive doctrine and declared that the business

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