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Julian Dorey Podcast

#334 - CIA Spy on Executed Mossad Spies, Dad's Murder & Infiltrating #1 Enemy | Andrew Bustamante

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6909 Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 229 minutes

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0:00.0

Claire worked in the marketing department for an up-and-coming artisan bakery.

0:05.5

Unfortunately, the artisan bakery in question was so up-and-coming.

0:10.5

Nobody actually knew it existed.

0:13.1

But then she had the really good idea to use Canva to create a business plan.

0:18.2

It looked good, really, really good.

0:22.9

Their investors thought so too.

0:29.2

And now their hotcakes are selling like, well, exactly. Thanks, Canber.

0:35.5

Espionage is a game because it's real world chess. When you see James Bond on a beautiful antique wooden boat, screaming down a channel, shooting out of both

0:38.0

sides. That's not professional intelligence. It's subtle. It's nuanced. It's invisible.

0:42.4

So my 100% job was just to determine my surveilling status, where I knew that the next person

0:48.5

who should follow me is the younger male on their team. I don't know why things were different

0:53.7

that day. It was winter. It was cold. It was nasty outside. Where's he going to fit in? The arcade. You control every element of the time. I could play three, four, five games, give the whole team 15 or 20 minute break so they don't think that there's anything suspicious about me. And that's how espionage worked. The thing that's so nasty about it is how fast it all went wrong.

1:11.3

There's actually so much about that story that is truly classified, that really, truly couldn't be shared. Not even with your friend, Julian. You think I'm going to tell you today? I think you're going to tell us today. Let's see if you can stump me. Let it happen, Andy. Oh, man. This is payback. Oh my God. Let it happen, Andy.

1:27.6

Oh, dear.

1:28.6

Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, She's paid back. Oh, my God. Let it happen, Andy. Oh, dear.

1:29.1

Hey, guys.

1:29.7

If you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star

1:33.4

review.

1:34.0

They're both a huge, huge help.

1:35.4

Thank you. I can't believe they wrote, they let you write this book.

1:50.4

I don't know how to take that yet, but I'm excited to explore it.

1:54.1

No, it's amazing what you guys pulled off.

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