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332. Why the Trump Tax Cuts Are Terrible/Awesome (Part 2)

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🗓️ 19 April 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Three former White House economists weigh in on the new tax bill. A sample: "The overwhelming evidence is that the trickle-down, magic-beanstalk beans argument — that's just nonsense."

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Last time on Freakonomics Radio, we spoke with one of the chief architects of the controversial

0:07.1

new Republican tax package.

0:09.5

I'm Kevin Hacett, I'm the 29th chairman of the president's council of economic advisors.

0:15.8

Hacett discussed the theory behind cutting the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%.

0:22.1

There's this thing called the capital deepening contribution to productivity growth.

0:26.6

And he defended the plan against its critics.

0:29.0

You know, we're hoping to prove them wrong.

0:31.2

And I think that the data so far are doing that.

0:35.7

If you're an economist with the background in academic and policy research, which Kevin

0:41.0

Hacett is, then becoming chair of the council of economic advisors is pretty much a dream job.

0:47.0

Here's how three former CEA chairs describe it.

0:49.8

Well, the job of the CEA chair is interesting because you really have one client and it's

0:56.0

the president.

0:57.0

An old friend of mine gave me the advice when I took the job, he said, a good CA chair,

1:02.5

like a good gardener, is 90% pulling weeds and 10% planting seeds.

1:08.7

Well, partly it was about helping to develop economic policies, but we also spent time

1:15.8

helping to market and sell those policies we agreed with, which in my case was about 90%

1:21.2

of the administration's policies.

1:23.8

You might think that economists pledging allegiance as they do to empiricism and hard data

1:30.1

would be fairly unified as to what constitutes something like good tax policy.

1:36.0

You might also think, but there wouldn't really be such a thing as a democratic economist

1:40.7

or a Republican economist, right?

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