Welcome, everyone back to Telecom Radio One, and I am probably going to change this radio show,

a podcast, whatever we want to call it, to dissecting popular IT nerds permanently, that we're

going to do that change.

Today we've got with us, Sean Granger on the phone, from the public sector, public sector

of IT.

So, Sean, your official title, senior level, public administrator with expertise in project management, IT solutions, and community partnerships.

And we're going to talk a lot about data today.

But before we got, before we, before we officially started recording here, we were talking about P&Ls and line items on the P&L and how you don't have as much flexibility being in the public sector

with your budget. It's kind of like what can I do with what I've been given? Because it's, I mean,

I guess it's essentially government. So you really, people are slicing and dicing and giving you

what money that they can and you've got to do as

much with it as you possibly can. Is that a fair statement? Yeah. So the way it works is we do our fiscal

year starts most local government starts in July 1. And so basically starting in December, we start advocating for our various departments.

So on IT, we're, you know, I'm, well, I start probably in August saying, hey, you know,

this is what we need to do next year and we kind of advocate.

Then January, we come out and we do, we put out our budget and we say, hey, this is all,

this is what I need, right?

In the past, so I work for the city of West Covina and we.

And if you don't mind, let me just kind of ask, because there's things that pop out to me

that I think are interesting,

because you said advocate, and then we advocate. So it's literally like politics, like IT politics

in local government, local state and local government. Right, right. So like when you advocate,

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