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#327 - Paleontologist on Egypt’s Lost Creatures & DEBUNKING “Dinosaurs Didn’t Exist” | Ken Lacovara

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

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4.6909 Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 184 minutes

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SPONSORS: 1) HelloFresh: Go to https://hellofresh.com/JULIAN10FM and get *10 FREE MEALS* w/ a Free Item for Life! 2) BRUNT: Get $10 Off @BRUNT w/ code JULIAN at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/ JULIAN #BRUNTpod PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in Description Below) ~ Dr. Kenneth Lacovara is a renowned paleontologist who discovered Dreadnoughtus, one of the largest dinosaurs ever unearthed. He combines cutting-edge technology with field science and serves as the founding director of Rowan University’s Edelman Fossil Park & Museum. Lacovara is also the author of Why Dinosaurs Matter and a widely viewed TED speaker. KEN's LINKS: FB: https://www.facebook.com/KennethLacovara WEBSITE: http://kennethlacovara.com/ X: https://x.com/kenlacovara IG: https://www.instagram.com/kennethlacovara/?hl=en Edelman Fossil Park: https://www.efm.org/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00:00 – Backyard Discovery, Edelman Fossil Park, Public Digs, Rowan School Built00:09:37 – NJ Dig Sites, Asteroid Impact, Pollen, Prehistoric Climate, Dinosaur Discovery00:11:07 – Birds & Crocs, First Dinosaurs, Dinosaur Eras, Africa Shift00:18:01 – Bipedal Dinosaurs, TRex Arms, Fossil Species, Science Debate00:36:38 – Scientific Process, Extinction, Pangea, Deep Time00:38:08 – Evolution Timeline, Wildlife Decline, Human Perception00:45:25 – Fossil Park Mission, Earth vs Mars, Ecosystem Roles00:50:21 – Jurassic End, TRex History, Jurassic Park, Chickens01:07:10 – Birds = Dinosaurs, Sea Life, Paleo Art01:15:13 – First NJ Discovery, Haddonfield, Dryptosaurus01:25:53 – Paleo Environments, Argentina, Spinosaurus, Patagonia01:37:19 – Field Connection, Best Moment, Big Discovery, Fossil Insurance01:47:11 – Naming Dreadnoughtus, 10-Year Process, Carl Sagan, Childhood Passion01:58:10 – Lost Dinosaurs, Whale Evolution, Pikaia02:07:26 – Climate Legacy, Tree Frog, Earth’s Age, Colossal02:13:03 – Joining Colossal, Fixing the Planet, Amazon02:23:00 – New Discoveries, Evolution & Continents, Geo-Biology02:33:08 – Dating Dreadnoughtus, Asteroid Impact Walkthrough02:42:53 – Asteroid Defense, AI & Paleontology, Meaning of Life02:54:04 – Climate Action, Early 2000s Bipartisan Support CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 327 - Ken Lacovara Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Take me back to that first day when you guys found something there.

0:03.0

We were endeavoring to find what we're known as the Lost Dinosaurus of Egypt.

0:07.0

No paleontologists had really worked within about 1,000 kilometers of that site called the Baharia Oasis.

0:12.0

Perfect conditions for me. By the end of it, we have 145 bones of this giant creature.

0:17.0

This thing is 10 tons heavier than a Boeing 737. 13 bull African elephants,

0:21.4

9 T-Rex. It's the world's second largest dinosaur. Yeah, if you look there,

0:25.3

ha ha, monsters. Yeah. Now in the case of T-Rex, those tiny arms make its murderous bite possible.

0:31.3

So as its head got bigger, as its bite got stronger, its arms got littler. You can't have both.

0:37.2

T-Rex is about the most

0:38.7

badass thing that's ever walked on land. But if you look at the extinction of species, look

0:43.2

up the fringe limb tree frog. That particular individual, its name is Tuffy, the last of his species.

0:48.1

It's a lineage that survive all five mass extinctions, including the one that took out the dinosaurs,

0:53.0

but it couldn't survive us.

0:57.8

Since 1970s, 72% of wildlife has disappeared on the planet.

1:03.4

Have you had conversations with Ben about the idea of potential producing a dinosaur?

1:04.0

Well...

1:11.2

Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review.

1:12.6

They're both a huge, huge help.

1:13.3

Thank you.

1:45.9

And I had our mutual friend, Ben Laman here a couple months ago, and he brought you up during our podcast. He's like, yeah, it's my dinosaur guy. You got to talk to him. And I was like, fuck, yeah, I want to talk with this guy. And then he sent me your information, and I realized you were in my old backyard. You're right down there at Rowan. I recorded the first 162 episodes of this podcast right there. I never had you in.

1:52.2

I'm sorry about that. That's crazy. It would have been a much better commute. I'm also kicking myself, though,

2:00.7

because you guys have built an unbelievable, I don't even know if you call it a museum. I don't know what you call it. It's like a live

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