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Hey everyone and welcome to Wire Talk with Karen Stubbs. I'm Sunny. I'm your host today and I'm here with the fabulous Karen herself.

How you doing today, Karen?

I'm doing so good. Today's August 2nd and it's my anniversary.

Happy anniversary.

We were just talking a little bit about it before we hit record

and tell everybody what year y'all are celebrating.

Oh, 36.

That's amazing. I know and like I said I still love him and I think I think he still loves me so that's good. I see all together I can I feel like I can attest to that. Yeah. We definitely like each other and guys have, now that y'all are empty nesters, lots of fun travel.

We have been doing a lot of fun things.

We went to England this past spring and went out to Yellowstone and we're getting ready to go to

Cancun with the whole family.

But mom's real life here, Kelsey had foot surgery in June, and her and the children moved in for two weeks.

And I just want to say to all the mamas out there, bless.

I did some hard stuff.

And my grandkids are great and wonderful and really no trouble but it's the

non-stop talking and sweet little talent Kelsey's three-year-old, before he asks me anything or says anything,

he says Mimi. Mimi, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, mime.

And I'm like, oh my my gosh I just remember when my children were little

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