Welcome to Wire Talk, where we encourage and equip moms by answering practical questions about motherhood.

We want to help instill God's truth in your heart, so you can experience more joy and peace on your journey of motherhood. Here's your host, Sunny Williams.

Hey everyone, my name is Sunny Williams. It is my pleasure to be here with you today as your host for wire talk with Karen Stubbs and I have Karen right here with me. Hey Karen

Hey Sunny how are you I'm awesome. Hey for our friends who may be new to you and Birds on a Wire

would you just take a quick second and just tell us about yourself and about the

Birds on a Wire Ministry?

Absolutely. Well I am also a wife and a mom.

Mom of four, my children are all grown. So my oldest is 26. I have to think

about that because she just had a birthday. And then my youngest goes all the way down to 18.

And so I started this ministry in 2011 to equip and

encourage moms and we just thought the podcast would be a great avenue for moms to listen in and to hear what's going on and

to be equipped and encouraged every week. Which I think is awesome because we all

need to be encouraged and we can never have enough advice to equip us as we go along.

Amen sister. Now I did get a little sneak peek at the topic for today and it is a good one

because I struggle with this tremendously so I'm really excited to hear

what you have to say today so why don't you tell us what we're talking about today.

Our topic for the day is how do I overcome mommy guilt?

Yes, how do we? Let's just... It is rampant in all of us.

Absolutely and you know what? I don't think you ever really do overcome it but I'm not going to jump ahead

I'm gonna let you go ahead and ask the questions but it's a very challenging thing

to ever overcome. Do you still struggle with mommy gilts? I do. Even though all your

kids are grown even though all my kids are grown because you

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