#324 — Debating the Future of AI

Making Sense with Sam Harris

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🗓️ 28 June 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Sam Harris speaks with Marc Andreessen about the future of artificial intelligence (AI). They discuss the primary importance of intelligence, possible good outcomes for AI, the problem of alienation, the significance of evolution, the Alignment Problem, the current state of LLMs, AI and war, dangerous information, regulating AI, economic inequality, and other topics.

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0:46.8	Okay, well there's been a lot going on out there. Everything from Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg
0:54.8	challenging one another to an MMA fight, which is ridiculous and depressing, to Robert Kennedy,
1:03.5	Jr. appearing on every podcast on earth, apart from this one. I have so far declined the privilege.
1:12.0	It really is a mess out there. I'll probably discuss the RFK phenomenon in a future episode,
1:18.6	because it reveals a lot about what's wrong with alternative media at the moment.
1:24.8	But I will leave more of a post-mortem on that for another time.
1:29.2	Today I'm speaking with Mark Andrewsson. Mark is a co-founder and general partner at the
1:33.7	venture capital firm, Andrewsson Horowitz. He's a true internet pioneer. He created the
1:39.4	mosaic internet browser and then co-founded Netscape. He's co-founded other companies and invested
1:45.6	in too many to count. Mark holds a degree in computer science from the University of Illinois.
1:50.9	He serves on the board of many and recent Horowitz portfolio companies. He's also on the board of
1:56.0	Metta. Anyways, you'll hear Mark and I get into a fairly spirited debate about the future of AI.
2:03.2	We discuss the importance of intelligence generally and the possible good outcomes of building AI,
2:09.2	but then we get into our differences around the risks or a lack thereof of building AGI,
2:15.2	artificial general intelligence. We talk about the significance of evolution in our thinking
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