Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 324.

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My name is Stephen Hackett, and I am joined by Mr. Federico Vitechi.

Hello. Hi. How are you?

I'm good, Federico. How are you?

I'm doing good. Yes, thank you.

Good. Good. We're also joined by Mike Hurley.

Good evening.

Oh, fancy. Nice. Good evening to you, Michael.

I've made the decision when everybody's listening to the show and it's the evening.

Right. That's the decision I've made. I think most people listen to connecting the evening,

you know, a bottle of wine or whiskey, some music. You know, you just paused. You were listening

to some jazz or, I don't know, Death Cat for Cudy, for example, and you realized.

Wow, you really took a...

And you realize, you know, now it's time to listen to Connected.

So you hit pause.

Yep.

On jazz or death cab, one of the two only.

I mean, if you're drinking wine or whiskey, it's either going to be jazz or death cap for cutty.

I think Stephen agrees.

Yes.

I don't even drink and I agree.

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