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The Michael Shermer Show

323. Elle Hardy — Beyond Belief: How Pentecostal Christianity Is Taking Over the World

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4921 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2023

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Summary

Shermer and Hardy discuss: Hardy’s religious journey (raised Catholic, now agnostic) • origin of Pentecostalism and its biblical basis Pentecostalism in Korea North and South, and Israel • the structure of the Pentecostal church and how it differs from other churches • Seven Mountain Mandate • how religions grow • pentecostalism and politics • the psychology of the believer • dispensationalism and the Rapture • prophecy • glossolalia • snake handling • eschatology and end-times theology • sin and redemption • prostitution • Jordan Peterson and secular religion.

Elle Hardy is a journalist and foreign correspondent who has reported from the United States, the former USSR and North Korea, among a long list of places. Her work has appeared in GQ, Lonely Planet, Foreign Policy and Business Insider, and on ABC Australia. Her new book is Beyond Belief: How Pentecostal Christianity is Taking Over the World.

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Okay, my guest today is L Hardy. She's a journalist and foreign correspondent who is reported from the United States the former USSR and North Korea.

1:00.0

We have to talk about that for sure.

1:02.0

Among a long list of places. North Korea, we have to talk about that for sure,

1:02.8

among a long list of places.

1:04.9

Her work has appeared in GQ, Lonely Planet,

1:07.4

foreign policy and business insider,

1:10.1

and on ABC Australia, where she lives at least part-time as I understand it you're also in the UK periodically

1:15.6

and even in America sometimes her new book is this beyond belief how Pentecostal Christianity is taking over the world.

1:23.4

Taking over the world, L, oh my God, it's the end of the world.

1:27.0

Yeah, it's kind of crazy, hey, it's just been happening under the radar, and that's really why I wrote the book I don't

1:34.2

think a lot of people knew that this you know religion that's only you know really a bit

1:38.9

over a hundred years old is going to have about 10% of the world adhering to it by 2050.

1:44.0

Yeah, I saw that in your data here.

1:47.5

Pentecostalism has 600 million followers.

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