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320. Letting Go

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4.6 β€’ 32K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 22 February 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

If you're a C.E.O., there are a lot of ways to leave your job, from abrupt firing to carefully planned succession (which may still go spectacularly wrong). In this final episode of our "Secret Life of a C.E.O." series, we hear those stories and many more. Also: what happens when you no longer have a corner office to go to β€” and how will you spend all that money?​

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0:00.0

This is ludicrous, is boring and tedious.

0:05.5

What's pretty depressing?

0:07.5

You are looked at differently.

0:09.0

The first thing you have to do is basically get new friends.

0:11.0

These hard decisions, not something that you can delegate.

0:15.0

They're still way overpaid.

0:16.0

From day one, you are the CEO.

0:19.0

There's pretty much one way to come into this world, but a lot of ways to leave it.

0:34.0

There are good deaths, like dying peacefully in your sleep and old age and your own bed.

0:40.0

Bad deaths, sudden, tragic or brutal.

0:44.0

You can die by accident or on purpose from a common cause or a rare one.

0:49.0

Also ambivalent deaths and undramatic but nonetheless sad deaths.

0:54.0

Like I said, a lot of ways to go.

0:57.0

It struck me now that we've reached the end of our secret life of a CEO series.

1:03.0

But the same could be said for CEOs.

1:05.0

There are a lot of ways to go.

1:07.0

Some of the CEOs we've been speaking with, they went the hard way for sure.

1:11.0

They thought, well, we'll just fire Carol.

1:14.0

The board didn't have a stomach for it and that ended up being the reason why they asked me to leave.

1:21.0

Others have stepped down on their own terms in their own time.

1:25.0

When I undertook the process of transitioning, I said, well, I think that this is going to go quick maybe two or three years.

1:32.0

And there's been a lot of in between.

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