What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pump. You're listening to the Pomp

podcast. Simply the best podcast out there. Let's kick this thing off. Jason Calacanis is the technology

entrepreneur, angel investor, and the host of the popular podcast this week in startups and Angel.

He boasts one of the top angel investor track records in recent history in Silicon Valley

and has written a book to teach others how to replicate his success as well.

This conversation was a little different than normal as we recorded a dual podcast episode.

Rather than argue over who got to interview who, we recorded one two-hour episode

where we interview each other throughout the episode. We covered everything from Bitcoin to

early stage investing to coronavirus to the recent protest. This episode was a lot of fun to record

and hopefully you enjoy it as well. Before I get into the episode though, I want to

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