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Gender: A Wider Lens

32 - Stereotypes

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Are stereotypes always harmful? Should we use stereotypes to predict and impose behaviors and preferences onto others? Some people believe transgender identities defy stereotypes while others believe they reify them. And where does stereotyping come from? This is a mental shortcut with complex roots and crucial implications for the gender debates.

Links:

Carole Hooven: Testosterone: The Story of the Hormone that dominates and Divides Us

Noam Shpancer: Stereotype Accuracy: A displeasing truth


Extended Notes

  • There are so many stereotypes in this space. What’s the right definition of gender dysphoria? The DMS is just riddled with stereotypes.
  • Stella reads out the DMS description of gender dysphoria.
  • The first six descriptors of gender dysphoria in the DMS are very stereotypical. It’s fixed with what a boy should play vs. what a girl should play.
  • Why are pink colors “girlish” and why are blue colors “boyish”?
  • What are some common stereotypes about women? Or even Irish people?
  • What frustrates Stella the most about stereotypes?
  • Stereotypes are always framed as harmful in this community, yet they also use them extensively. It’s a bit of a contradiction.
  • These stereotypes really do come from somewhere. There’s a reason why these exist.
  • Stella and Sasha compare their culture and differences.
  • Our brains use stereotypes to keep us safe.
  • Both sides are claiming they’re breaking the stereotypes down, but are they?
  • There are girls who are wearing makeup and are in girls’ clothing, but they are saying they identify as trans guys. What’s going on? It’s a huge mind pretzel.
  • It’s confusing, they say “treat me like a man,” but what does that mean if it’s outside of a stereotype?
  • There’s a mix between medical and rebellion language and, when it comes to gender, this is very scary.
  • If you call a phone a duck and still call a duck a duck, what the heck are we actually talking about?
  • Free speech is everything and trying to control or change speech, even in its respect to gender, is dangerous.
  • Stereotypes have a certain level of efficiency towards understanding what another person means.
  • Kids are resident stereotypes all the time, but they also seek out edgy and cool ones to be a part of. Their own tribe, if you will.
  • When they feel like a stereotype is “off-limits,” Sasha wonders how that can impact the development stages of a child if they feel like they can’t be whole or have to shun parts of their identity to fit in.
  • There’s a subcategory of feminists who feel driven to be sexually liberated and proud to sleep with multiple, multiple people, but Stella and Sasha ask questions on why that is.


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Rethinkime.org


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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

0:04.0

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:06.5

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:10.6

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

0:16.1

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

0:20.7

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

0:24.2

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

0:28.1

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

0:35.0

Hi Stella, how are you?

0:39.0

Hi Sasha.

0:40.0

So today we're going to speak about stereotypes. I just looked up actually what is the meaning of the word stereotype.

0:48.0

It's a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular person or a particular type or a particular thing.

0:57.5

So it's over simplified and it's fixed.

1:00.5

And you know what? It's absolutely riddled in the gender world. It seems to be so, just everywhere.

1:09.0

And I think for me one of the pivotal, one of the many pivotal, but one of an early pivotal moment for me one of the pivotal one of the many pivotal but one of an early pivotal

1:14.1

moment for me learning about gender was when I looked up the DSM and I looked up what is it to

1:21.8

get gender dysphoria because people were asking me I was doing

1:24.4

the film Tans kids and people were saying like did you really have such a weird

1:28.0

experience as a kid was it really gender dysphoria that was the big

1:31.4

question that everybody was asking was it really gender dysphoria? And so I thought, oh, well, I better check out what it was. I know I had a very intense experience and I know it wasn't like what most people seem to have

1:43.3

I better check it out and I did and when I read the DSM I was like but sure this is all

1:48.8

stereotypes this is all and that was really a shock to me. But then as I got more and more deeper into the world of gender, I found stereotypes are everywhere with this. It's what men do, what women do and then I realized and

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