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32: LONDINIUM 91 A.D.: Roman Siege Tactics and Russian Attrition: A Study in Political Vengeance and War Strategy Gaius (John Batchelor) and Germanicus (Michael Vlahos) Gaius and Germanicus open by discussing fresh swan meat in Londinium before moving to th

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🗓️ 27 October 2025

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LONDINIUM 91 A.D.:
Roman Siege Tactics and Russian Attrition: A Study in Political Vengeance and War Strategy

Gaius (John Batchelor) and Germanicus (Michael Vlahos)

Gaius and Germanicus open by discussing fresh swan meat in Londinium before moving to the main topic of political vengeance, noting that Romans recognize it while American editorialists are discovering it afresh due to Emperor Trump. They review the war in Ukraine, where Russians are employing a strategy of attrition to achieve the collapse of the Ukrainian army. Germanicus explains that Ukraine's strategy of refusing to retreat has led to disproportionate losses and the encirclement of up to 10,000 soldiers in "cauldrons" near Pokrovsk and Kupyansk. Gaius relates this situation to successful Roman siege tactics used at Carthage and Jerusalem. Historically, the reward for Roman soldiers breaking a siege was to ransack the city, causing the prices of gold and slaves to plummet. Germanicus asserts, however, that the Russians are taking pains to signal that leveling cities is not their way, emphasizing mercy due to the kinship between the two related peoples. The hosts also mention the delay of a summit involving Vladimir Putin and Mr. Trump's proposed Greco-Roman style building at the White House.
80 BCE SULLA SACKS ROME




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0:00.0

This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

0:05.0

I am Gaius. I'm in Lundinium.

0:08.0

It's a fall evening by the Thames.

0:12.0

And we will speak of the swans tonight because there is fresh swan meat in the markets.

0:19.0

And the centurions retired were bragging about how only londinium

0:26.7

and all the empire has fresh swan meat it takes weeks for it to go the high road to rome where

0:35.3

the senators enjoy it we can enjoy it routinely because they're in the Thames

0:39.2

estuary. I personally don't recommend it if you're feeling delicate about the beauty of the swans,

0:48.5

but it's said to be, I have a recipe, in fact, that the centurions gave me, if I have a chance,

0:54.0

I'll give it out tonight

0:55.0

Germanicus is here we're going to turn to something that isn't elegant like swans

1:01.0

even dead swans we're going to turn to the story of political vengeance and how it's been

1:07.0

practiced for 2,000 years we Romans recognize recognize it. Apparently, it's worthwhile for

1:12.6

the American editorial pages to discover it fresh because of Emperor Trump. We begin tonight,

1:19.3

however, reviewing the week that was. Chiefly, it was dominated by talk of Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin, redoubling their efforts to win their battle in for Donbass.

1:34.8

And the disappointment of the Trump administration, we're told that they weren't ready to come to the table to negotiate.

1:42.3

We're told, and that the idea of the summit in Budapest is postponed, delayed, canceled, choose

1:53.1

one, who knows.

1:54.9

However, there is the conversation of we'll talk about it, and that's at the same time mr zelenski was in

2:04.6

europe meeting with the coalition of the willing that's the usual suspects in nato absent the

2:10.5

u.s this time and mr starmer kir sir kherstarmur was making lavish promises to Mrs. Zelensky.

2:18.9

Moving to other subjects, however, there's a fun topic this week.

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