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Bad People

32. Jimmy McGovern: Doing Time

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2021

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

This episode of Bad People features the writer of the new BBC One hit drama, Time, Jimmy McGovern. There will be spoilers. Mark Cobden is drunk. Again. But this time he gets into his car and drives off. Moments later he hits and kills a cyclist. Criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw, comedian Sofie Hagen and the Bafta and Emmy-winning writer Jimmy McGovern discuss what makes dangerous driving a relatable crime. Mark did not mean to hurt anyone, so does he belong in prison? And if so, what sort of prison? McGovern shares details about the production and follows up on how he understands the motivations of his characters, the stories that lead them to crime and their guilt and atonement. And, McGovern speaks about how his own life and harsh childhood growing up in Liverpool, informs his writing. Warning: This episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Louisa Field Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultants for The Open University: Lara Frumkin and James Munro Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskin Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds. #BadPeople_BBC

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:07.6

Hi Sophie.

0:08.8

Hi Jimmy. Hi Julia.

0:10.4

Hey. How are you?

0:12.0

I'm fine. I'm great Sophie.

0:14.2

I'm sorry. I'm late.

0:15.6

I dropped my computer on the floor.

0:19.8

It was not good.

0:21.4

Okay. I'm here.

0:23.8

Jimmy, the show was amazing.

0:25.8

Oh, thank you.

0:27.0

It was incredible.

0:28.6

Very sad.

0:30.0

Yeah, yeah.

0:31.6

It's quite a looklifting ending though, isn't it?

0:33.6

It's not such a bad ending.

0:35.6

Oh, no, it's not a bad ending at all.

0:37.6

It's just, it's very real.

0:41.4

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:43.8

And well, like well done, everyone's raining about it.

0:46.6

Yeah, they are.

0:47.8

It's really touched the nerve.

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