But one of the reasons why I'm excited about being in porn is because it is situated on that line between what's real and what's not.

You know, I'm having sex. I'm not really having sex and performing. I have to have an orgasm. So I have to feel it.

But I also have to be conscious of where all my body parts are. When people watch it, they're watching real sex.

But they're actually also watching a highly staged scenario. Like those places where that's all teased out is so fascinating to me.

And honestly, I would say almost everything is real and unreal at the same time. We just have to look hard enough into it.

I mean, if you, you know, even if you look at material, there's a reality to it and there's an unreality to it.

Because the fact of the matter is you can't untangle conscious states from the external world.

And so the way I like to say it is that, you know, the external world is just the part of our consciousness that appears to be outside of us.

Why don't we waste some time thinking about an obligation, run a fool of confrontation, wonder what we ought to say.

We're never, we're never known, sitting forehead and stone. I don't want to get the end of it. We're gonna die one day.

We're gonna die one day. We're gonna die one day.

Yeah, that was the great Carcy Blanton singing her tune, Smoke Alarm. Great song, Smoke Alarm.

You can hear the whole thing at the end of the podcast. We're back. I'm back. You're back. That means we're back. Wonderful to be here.

It's fucking hot in Vancouver tonight. It's 11, 15 p.m. Sunday, the 30th of June, I believe.

And it's actually hot in Vancouver. It's way hotter everywhere else though, so I'm not complaining.

I think it's like setting global temperature records right now in Southern California and the Southwest.

So my heart goes out to you people down there. I hope you got some mysteries going on, some AC, some fans, some kitty pool in the backyard, some bag of ice down your pants, whatever it takes.

Thank you for the feedback on the last podcast with Erie. When I first uploaded it, it was in two channels somehow.

And I don't really know how this happened, but when I was editing it, my voice was one like one file and Erie's voice was the other file.

And so I was going through and removing some of the places where I go, okay, cool, right? You know, just noise, which I know is irritating.

And then I forgot to merge them together into one mono file. So when I first uploaded it, some people were like, yo, you guys are moving back and forth across my brain too much.

So I re-uploaded it. So if you listen to part of it and just got fed up and stopped and you want to hear the rest, if you go back to iTunes now or any of the other spots where you can hear the podcast, I uploaded a file that's mono.

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