Today we're introducing a new six-part series. It's produced and hosted by Donald Brink,

and episodes will be published weekly. He has his own podcast, which you may or may not be

aware of. It's called Swell with My Soul. You can and you should subscribe to it right now

in whatever app you're listening in.

I'm going to publish this first episode here on Surf Splenders Feed, but if you enjoy it,

you'll be able to hear the next five episodes on Swell with My Soul.

This series was recorded earlier this month in Bonnie Doon, California.

Donald was there with a group of board builders and surfers working on concepts and

projects, and he took time each day to sit down and record some of those conversations.

His guests for this series are Jeff McCallum, Jason Woodside, Cliff Capono, Derek Disney,

Jay Nelson, and Travis Reynolds. Today's episode is with Jeff McCallum and I love Jeff. I'm sad to say

that I've never actually ridden any of his boards, even though I'm drawn to them more than almost

any others that I encounter. It's just that I've interviewed too many shapers to actually get boards

from each of them. And beyond that, Jeff's boards are simply hard to get.

You rarely see them at retail because Jeff and his crew only make a very limited amount.

And that's kind of like Jeff himself.

He's scarce in surf media.

He rarely participates in interviews, choosing instead to focus his time and attention

on making surfboards. Imagine that. But he and Donald are good friends, and so we get the benefit

of sitting in on this conversation. Really interesting stuff in here about, quote, sustainability

in surfboards and eco certification also some really good

technical information about board design fin design and fin setups and of course lamination

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