Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hi there, I'm Jason Gatz, and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

Since 2008, Big Think has been producing short, iconic interviews with some of the brightest minds of our time.

The Think Again podcast is us shaking things up.

The producer surprised me and my guests with short interview clips on every

conceivable subject, space travels, xenophobia, sex, what have you. We are forced to discuss them

and there is no escape. My guest today is Michael Shermer. I think you could call him a nonviolent

crusader for the light of science and reason against superstition.

He's the founder of the Skeptic Society and the author of numerous books, including the

believing brain and the recently published The Moral Arc, which Stephen Pinker called

A Thrilling and Fascinating Book which could change your view of human history and human destiny.

Welcome to think again, Michael. Oh, thank you.

Okay, so I'm going to start with a sort of cheeky question here. For a lot of people on what I think

we'd probably both consider the right side of history, progressive, liberal, humanist,

mostly rational, the word skeptic or skeptical and moral conjure up images of frowny faces and finger wagging. What's up with that?

Is this a PR problem? Are science and kitten videos culturally incompatible? What do you think?

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