Welcome to the Paul Tripp podcast, where pastor and bestselling author Dr. Paul David Tripp connects the transforming power of Jesus Christ to everyday life.

In this week's connecting clip of the week, Paul Tripp, Shelby Abbott and special guest Lois Kalenbrink discussed the broken world we live in and how Lois helps

counsel people through this brokenness in her work. This short excerpt is from a larger conversation

between Lois, Paul, and Shelby on the Connecting podcast. To hear Lois's full story, check out the

Paul Trip podcast episode 299. Now here's this week's connecting clip of the week.

So you're beginning to work with Redeemer, city to city. Keep telling us the story.

So I remember I was teaching with Alan, working with Spanish-speaking pastors in the New York area.

And then we got an invitation to go to Argentina.

So I went with him to Argentina.

And we just had lots of fun co-teaching.

And teaching, primarily helping churches, teach people, teach the church to counsel one another informally.

I mean, that's how people change, instruments, all these curriculum was the church should be counseling one another.

And so my teaching was to teach leaders, to teach it, whether it's children, teenagers,

elders, that the whole church is thinking biblically about life. Because a lot of people,

if the church were doing its job, a lot of people wouldn't need to go to a professional counselor.

Things get solid when they're little,

instead of great big, huge things they've sat on for 10 years

that now needs somebody that's very wise and very seasoned.

So that was very rewarding.

So I think the first trip was to Argentina,

then there was Cuba, then the Dominican Republic,

and so I think a pastor's convention in Holland, they invited me to teach how people change.

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