Welcome to the Paul Tripp podcast, where pastor and bestselling author Dr. Paul David Tripp

connects the transforming power of Jesus Christ to everyday life. In this week's connecting clip of the

week, Lois Kellenbrink shares the story about how she came to think about life struggles with a more

gospel-centered view.

This short excerpt is from a larger conversation between Lois Kellynbrink, Paul Tripp, and Shelby

Abbott on the Connecting podcast.

To hear Lois' full story, check out the Paul Tripp podcast episode 299.

Now here's this week's connecting clip of the week.

Okay. Now here's this week's Connecting Clip of the Week. So you had this

secular training.

How did you come to a more gospel-centered way of thinking about these issues and struggles of life?

So Paul.

So Paul, of course, as I was studying, he said, Lois, you need to have a deeper theological

foundation for how God changes people.

And so he was teaching a weekend conference at a church in Pennsylvania called Changing Hearts,

changing lives. Back then, how people changed the curriculum, hadn't been developed yet,

or was being developed.

And so he said, I want you to come.

So I went that weekend, and I'll never forget it.

It was like, you know, your eyes get opened.

And I learned that my biggest problem is inside of me, not outside of me.

And I remember leaving that conference or that weekend

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