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Ken Coleman,

welcome to the Watson Central Podcast.

Well, it's good to be with you, man.

I'm a big fan of your work and always love talking with you.

I just was reading an article today called The Great Resignation is finally getting companies to take burnout seriously. Is it enough?

What are your thoughts about this, about the role that the great resignation is having on individuals, on companies right now in terms of them figuring out, you know, how to help their people and people feeling the need to design their careers more thoughtfully.

Yeah, that's a great question because I think this is a huge emergency alarm going off for

leaders. People are leaving companies in droves and then leaders are having a hard time attracting people to come to them.

And you're seeing all this come together in such a unique time in history.

And I think that the wake-up call for leaders is is this burnout thing

it's kind of like being at a movie theater have you ever been a movie theater or at a church setting or a large congregation?

Of course this is pre-COVID because this is freak everybody out.

But one person would cough and or one person gets up to go to the bathroom and then over the next

three to five minutes you see a lot of people

doing this and they'll get up and and that's a real thing there's a phenomenon there

it's kind of the mirroring and I think with so many people talking about burnout and

also experiencing burnout.

Now all of a sudden there's a heightened awareness, mental health days is like a thing.

That wasn't even a thing five years ago. And so what's happening is with COVID

forcing all of this change on people. Forced change. We as humans don't like change.

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