Yes, it's a smaller bubble than it needs to be, right?

We need a bigger bubble.

Yeah, we need to talk to parents, right?

We need to talk to parents that don't have a history with the trades.

We need to talk to people outside on the fringe and talk about the value of this work when done well.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, our regular discussion with building

industry professionals. This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Rob Yaget,

former Fine Home Building editor and

executive director of Keep Craft Alive. You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast

and the original Fine Homebinding podcast at finehomebuilding.com slash podcast. You can leave

feedback and ask questions there too. Rob, it is a pleasure to see you, man.

Happy to be here, man. It's been a while. Welcome back to the podcast. I know. I'm stoked

about it. It's one of my fondest memories of my time at FHB. It's always been fun to record

this podcast with you also. I totally agree, and I can't believe I'm lucky enough to get paid

to do it. It's amazing.

I know, right.

So the world has changed quite a bit since we last spoke. How's your life? I bet there's been some changes in your work and home balance.

Yeah, absolutely. Like everybody else, COVID has kind of upended my day-to-day, so to speak.

Yeah, you know, since I left the magazine a few years ago, I think I left my post there,

like the week before my daughter was to be born or like right in that midst.

And I had since had another child, so I've got a son in the house as well.

So it's been a who just turned one actually last weekend.

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