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Conspirituality

30: Are There Really Two Sides? (w/Charles Eisenstein)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

Who gets to take up space in critical times? How do we orient ourselves toward expertise? In a culture dominated by “experts” on social media, do charismatics outperform fact-checkers?This episode marks a milestone for our podcast, as Matthew interviews Charles Eisenstein, whose essay “The Coronation” has cast a long shadow on our ongoing critique of how New Age and spiritual spaces interact with public health. It’s a respectful but robust conversation about the limits of what laypeople can know about science and journalism, the intersection between conspiracy theory and myth, what the word “narrative” really means, and whether activism on the left and conspiracy theories on the right can be equally misguided. The conversation ran long: we dish up and comment on the first hour here.In the Ticker, we cover Gaiam TV—Netflix for the Q-adjacent—and JP Sears keeping it classy by using the birth announcement of his son to punch down at trans people. On The Jab, Julian reports on Robert F Kennedy Jr’s role in flooding social media with anti-vax ads, and targeting propaganda at minority and immigrant communities, to their detriment.Show NotesSuzanne Humphries on Rational WikiWhy Dr Suzanne Humphries, an anti-vaccine activist, is lying to you about measlesJP Sears’s transphobic postJP Sears’s squat workout / Bill Gates postOverlap between conspirituality and anti-trans politicsInvite from the “Awarehouse”, oh and this one tooWhy this mainstream yoga site is now a hub for QAnon influencersA Thrive interviewee regrets his participationBell’s Palsy, Allergic Reactions, and Deaths in Covid Vaccine TrialsFunding for anti-vax ads on FacebookRFK is -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Glass Fox Media Podcast. Hey everyone welcome to

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to conspiracy. I'm Derek Ferris. I'm Matthew Rimsky. I'm Julian Walker.

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You can stay up to date with us on all of our social media channels, including once again

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Conspiratoriality Pod, the D.D.'s at Instagram for some reason decided after six weeks that we were okay.

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So I'm not telling us, it's just there.

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So interestingly, a number of people have been started following us on Conspiri Pod.

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They probably listen to old episodes,

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and I know it's confusing.

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That's gonna be our backup account

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in case that happens again,

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but Conspiratoriality Pod is where we're posting

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all of our new materials,

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so please find us there,

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as well as on Patreon.com slash spirituality,

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where you can find our Monday bonus episodes

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and weekend bonus content.

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We have four tiers that you can join in at.

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So if you would be so willing to support us

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and appreciate our work, please check that out as well.

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One thing I'll add about Instagram.

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We love that you share our stuff in your stories. When you go to

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tag us, it's going to give you the option to do ConspiriPOD and to do Conspirity

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