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I'm John Bachelor with Professor Eric Klein. The book is after 1177, lessons learned about how you

cope with, how you survive, how you don't. What resilience is when the world has met a catastrophe that wipes out crops,

wipes out people, reduces populations by up to 70, 80, 90 percent.

And we come now to the Minoans, which we know as Crete,

and the Mycenaeans, which we know as not the mainland, a series of islands that are attached, the Peloponnese, the mainland where Athens is, but this is early on.

And so the question is, how did they survive or did they?

And here in, Professor, I divide into the Mycinans and the Minoans on Crete.

The Minoans were builders.

The Mycenaans were okay builders, but they inherited it a lot, if I read this correctly.

The Minowans were building huge operations, sort of like Belt and Road Initiative.

Why that looked to be a creation of genuine superiority?

Why did it fall apart?

Well, these are good questions.

But what we've got basically in the late Bronze Age,

we've got the Mnowans on Crete, and Sir Arthur Evans excavated the site of Canalsas.

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