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Romance of the Three Kingdoms Podcast

3 Kingdoms Supplemental Episode 006: Red Cliff, Fact and Fiction

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Podcast

John Zhu

Books, Arts, History

4.9676 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2016

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

A look at the most legendary battle of the novel and how the fictional account differs from the real showdown.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms podcast.

0:11.9

This is a supplemental episode.

0:15.3

In this episode, we're going to take a look at the real battle of Redcliffe versus the fictional version.

0:22.7

Considering that we spent all or part of 11 episodes of the podcast on this one battle

0:28.9

and the events immediately leading up to it, it goes without saying that this was a seminal

0:35.0

event in the novel, and that mirrors its significance in real history,

0:40.4

even if the players involved may not have realized it at the time.

0:45.3

This turned out to be essentially the battle that set us on the path

0:49.7

to having three kingdoms instead of one kingdom run by Cao Cao.

0:55.0

However, as you may have already guessed,

0:58.0

a lot of the events described in the novel are exaggerations, or just pure fiction.

1:05.3

So let's start with what was real.

1:08.4

To do that, I'm going to read you what was written about this battle in the

1:12.7

records of the Three Kingdoms, which is generally considered the most reliable source of

1:18.3

information on the Three Kingdoms period. This is actually a collection of three books,

1:24.6

each one being the official history of one of the three kingdoms.

1:28.6

I'll start off with the book of Wei, which is the kingdom that Cao Cao's descendants

1:33.4

would found. Here's roughly what it says about the Battle of Redcliffe.

1:40.2

Cao Cao arrived at Redcliffe and fought against Liu Bei. The outcome was unfavorable.

1:47.2

Also, there was pestilence and many soldiers died, so he led his army back.

1:53.3

Liu Bei then gradually gained the counties of Jing province and the Southlands.

1:59.8

So, I know what you're thinking,

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