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I'm John Batchel with Professor Eric Klein. The new book is a sequel.

The first book I recommend is updated now.

1177 BC, the year civilization collapsed.

The second book, the sequel, just published,

after 1177 BC, The Survival of Civilizations,

like a really good melodrama. It gives us a moment at the end that if we change our ways,

we can get out of this trouble. So we come to, how do we get out of this trouble? I'm going to lead

with the survivors who were sophisticated, the Phoenicians and the Cypriots.

Now the Cypriots, I'm going to set aside for a moment because they had a wonderful island,

but the Phoenicians didn't have anything like an island.

They were vulnerable to all of the invasion routes of the Levant.

They were also shipboard.

In other words, great risk all the time in the Mediterranean.

But they were anti-fragile.

What does that mean again, Professor?

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